So... Is Gilles secretly carrying Soul Edge? 'Cause that Unique feels oddly familiar.
My First Thought Was "Oh, lul, She's Holding A Life Orb".
Exactly. Now that we're out of ideas for uniques, we're turning to Pokémon items for inspiration. All we can hope for is that one day there'll be a Rocky Helmet unit.
My First Thought Was "Oh, lul, She's Holding A Life Orb".
Exactly. Now that we're out of ideas for uniques, we're turning to Pokémon items for inspiration. All we can hope for is that one day there'll be a Rocky Helmet unit.
So, A Few JP Players On The Discord Did Some Testing With SS Gilles, And We've Got Some Numbers
Her Attack Boost Is 50% '-' And, Unlike Ba'al, There Is No Chance Of That Boost Decreasing. It Is 50% At All Times. So, Holy Freaking Herb.
It Seems My Comparison To Her Unique And The Life Orb Is A Bit More Relevant Than We Might Have Thought - She Loses 10% Of Her Max Health Every Turn. Meaning, On Turn 11, She's Dead Without Heals. In Turn Meaning, She Is About As Glass Cannon As It Gets. I Dunno If Ten Turn Lifespan Is Enough To Justify A Permanent Attack Boost, But Here We Are.
We Ran A Small Test On Her Heal Reduction... And A Small Potion Heals 100 HP Out Of The 1000 It Gives. I Dunno If That Necessarily Means It's A 90% Reduction On All Forms Of Healing; It Might Vary Between The Form That Healing Comes From. But If It's That Drastic, Then Even With Constant Heals Every Turn And After Every Wave, You're Probably Not Getting Three More Turns Out Of Her.
In Other Words, SS Gilles Is CTA Only. She Will Be Absolutely Worthless In Fortress and BotB.
So, A Few JP Players On The Discord Did Some Testing With SS Gilles, And We've Got Some Numbers
Her Attack Boost Is 50% '-' And, Unlike Ba'al, There Is No Chance Of That Boost Decreasing. It Is 50% At All Times. So, Holy Freaking Herb.
It Seems My Comparison To Her Unique And The Life Orb Is A Bit More Relevant Than We Might Have Thought - She Loses 10% Of Her Max Health Every Turn. Meaning, On Turn 11, She's Dead Without Heals. In Turn Meaning, She Is About As Glass Cannon As It Gets. I Dunno If Ten Turn Lifespan Is Enough To Justify A Permanent Attack Boost, But Here We Are.
We Ran A Small Test On Her Heal Reduction... And A Small Potion Heals 100 HP Out Of The 1000 It Gives. I Dunno If That Necessarily Means It's A 90% Reduction On All Forms Of Healing; It Might Vary Between The Form That Healing Comes From. But If It's That Drastic, Then Even With Constant Heals Every Turn And After Every Wave, You're Probably Not Getting Three More Turns Out Of Her.
In Other Words, SS Gilles Is CTA Only. She Will Be Absolutely Worthless In Fortress and BotB.
ATK boost and damage over time are roughly what I imagined, but 90% healing reduction sounds overkill, I expected it around 50%.
Has anyone tried heal over time? I think it's still considered as a heal but not sure
So, A Few JP Players On The Discord Did Some Testing With SS Gilles, And We've Got Some Numbers
Her Attack Boost Is 50% '-' And, Unlike Ba'al, There Is No Chance Of That Boost Decreasing. It Is 50% At All Times. So, Holy Freaking Herb.
It Seems My Comparison To Her Unique And The Life Orb Is A Bit More Relevant Than We Might Have Thought - She Loses 10% Of Her Max Health Every Turn. Meaning, On Turn 11, She's Dead Without Heals. In Turn Meaning, She Is About As Glass Cannon As It Gets. I Dunno If Ten Turn Lifespan Is Enough To Justify A Permanent Attack Boost, But Here We Are.
We Ran A Small Test On Her Heal Reduction... And A Small Potion Heals 100 HP Out Of The 1000 It Gives. I Dunno If That Necessarily Means It's A 90% Reduction On All Forms Of Healing; It Might Vary Between The Form That Healing Comes From. But If It's That Drastic, Then Even With Constant Heals Every Turn And After Every Wave, You're Probably Not Getting Three More Turns Out Of Her.
In Other Words, SS Gilles Is CTA Only. She Will Be Absolutely Worthless In Fortress and BotB.
You make some interesting points. I'll have to consider that when I buy her from the medal shop because I burned all my luck this event.
It Seems My Comparison To Her Unique And The Life Orb Is A Bit More Relevant Than We Might Have Thought - She Loses 10% Of Her Max Health Every Turn. Meaning, On Turn 11, She's Dead Without Heals. In Turn Meaning, She Is About As Glass Cannon As It Gets. I Dunno If Ten Turn Lifespan Is Enough To Justify A Permanent Attack Boost, But Here We Are.
So I'm guessing that when she's at less than 10% HP she will probably survive with 1 HP or something like that instead. Easy pickings for Upier, Sarah, Aterui, or SS Seiten's Uniques.
Question: what is the effect of a passive HP inc. on Gilles? Can it negate one turn of the unique, or even heal above the current HP limit?
Also, does a passive Revive or Angel Feather restore her original HP after KO?
Revive Passives and Angel Feathers revive the unit and heal them for a percentage of their HP, so I'd assume the healing part would be less due to the Unique as well. (Abilities healing by 50% normally and Passives like XMas Raziel healing by 20% according to the wikia) Not sure about the HP Passive, though.
Question: what is the effect of a passive HP inc. on Gilles? Can it negate one turn of the unique, or even heal above the current HP limit?
Also, does a passive Revive or Angel Feather restore her original HP after KO?
Revive Passives and Angel Feathers revive the unit and heal them for a percentage of their HP, so I'd assume the healing part would be less due to the Unique as well. (Abilities healing by 50% normally and Passives like XMas Raziel healing by 20% according to the wikia) Not sure about the HP Passive, though.
It Would Be Pretty Funny If Feathers Only Revived Her With 10% Of Her Max HP. They'd Be Completely Pointless.
As For The HP Increase, I Would Assume It Would Increase By The Normal Amount Since It Isn't Actually A "Healing" Ability, But It Wouldn't Really Matter; Since It's Raising Her Max HP, Her Unique Would Just Deal More Damage Every Turn.
Revive Passives and Angel Feathers revive the unit and heal them for a percentage of their HP, so I'd assume the healing part would be less due to the Unique as well. (Abilities healing by 50% normally and Passives like XMas Raziel healing by 20% according to the wikia) Not sure about the HP Passive, though.
It Would Be Pretty Funny If Feathers Only Revived Her With 10% Of Her Max HP. They'd Be Completely Pointless.
As For The HP Increase, I Would Assume It Would Increase By The Normal Amount Since It Isn't Actually A "Healing" Ability, But It Wouldn't Really Matter; Since It's Raising Her Max HP, Her Unique Would Just Deal More Damage Every Turn.
Feathers should not be reduced (that was in a news, along the fact that it can't kill), don't know about other revives
Post by fanofthegame206 on Jul 17, 2017 22:38:39 GMT
Maybe its been said before, but doesn't increasing max hp "heal" after wave? Say Unit X lost 5k health from a mine in Wave 1 and u clear the wave without further damage. Wave 2 you get an HP boost from whatever unit (same one or different). If Unit X doesn't take any damage that turn either and the buff ends when u advance to Wave 3, does that excess health just cut back to where you were or can you "heal" off that by reducing down to a health amount that was higher than you were before Wave 2?
So, I was wondering...Do you think I should spend my last 6000ish free crowns trying to pull for Gilles, or use them in the guaranteed 7 of this week? Even if it's a guaranteed 7, keep in mind that next event requires EU to succeed, and I'm aiming at getting the platinum medal, but I may not get a 6 or 7, let alone Gilles... But perhaps pulling for the guaranteed 7 and forget about the next event is the way to go... Which is it?
So, I was wondering...Do you think I should spend my last 6000ish free crowns trying to pull for Gilles, or use them in the guaranteed 7 of this week? Even if it's a guaranteed 7, keep in mind that next event requires EU to succeed, and I'm aiming at getting the platinum medal, but I may not get a 6 or 7, let alone Gilles... But perhaps pulling for the guaranteed 7 and forget about the next event is the way to go... Which is it?
Here is my personal way: - I gave up on pulling P7* from packs (hasn't happened in months, not a reason to spend crowns unless you bring the $) - I pull packs for the potential pots/trades I may gain from it rather than for the pack units themselves (I'd rather pull and sell an expensive base I don't want, than get a single base I want in +2 anyways) - I pull guaranteed 7* packs because they give more 7* per crown on average (for reference, a simple 3k pack only has around 30% chance of pulling a 7*) - I pull day 1 or 2 to sell stuff asap - For EU, I usually trade some random old unsellable event 7* for a 6* (it usually sells by saturday, which leaves plenty of time to do the event)
At worst, the 5k pack is either ~600// or Oceanus, with a decent chance at ~1200//. (I actually got lucky this time and pulled 3 Ori bases, who got me a Rahab+2)
Now this was from someone who got really careful about not wasting crowns trying to pull the exact stuff he wanted, and prefers patiently buying his units one by one. Feel free to test your own 3k pack luck in case it's better.
So, I was wondering...Do you think I should spend my last 6000ish free crowns trying to pull for Gilles, or use them in the guaranteed 7 of this week? Even if it's a guaranteed 7, keep in mind that next event requires EU to succeed, and I'm aiming at getting the platinum medal, but I may not get a 6 or 7, let alone Gilles... But perhaps pulling for the guaranteed 7 and forget about the next event is the way to go... Which is it?
Here is my personal way: - I gave up on pulling P7* from packs (hasn't happened in months, not a reason to spend crowns unless you bring the $) - I pull packs for the potential pots/trades I may gain from it rather than for the pack units themselves (I'd rather pull and sell an expensive base I don't want, than get a single base I want in +2 anyways) - I pull guaranteed 7* packs because they give more 7* per crown on average (for reference, a simple 3k pack only has around 30% chance of pulling a 7*) - I pull day 1 or 2 to sell stuff asap - For EU, I usually trade some random old unsellable event 7* for a 6* (it usually sells by saturday, which leaves plenty of time to do the event)
At worst, the 5k pack is either ~600// or Oceanus, with a decent chance at ~1200//. (I actually got lucky this time and pulled 3 Ori bases, who got me a Rahab+2)
Now this was from someone who got really careful about not wasting crowns trying to pull the exact stuff he wanted, and prefers patiently buying his units one by one. Feel free to test your own 3k pack luck in case it's better.
You're right in that sense. A guaranteed 7 is way better option than trying to pull for Gilles, which is only a bet with a low chance of success...But Gilles is....Gilles is!! I'll have to think about it for the lasthour of the event.
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